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On Censorship

January 27, 2009


If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.

– John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

I should have pointed out that I’ve started this blog primarily as a place to post comments that I would previously have posted on the Grauniad’s website. I still feel compelled to shoot my mouth off and produce doggerel but my disgust with the moronic, arbitrary and unanswerable censorship on what used to be one of the best sites on the web (how distant that memory now seems) can no longer be contained.

Comments are welcome and won’t be moderated. Racist, misogynist, anti-semitic remarks and such-like vileness, however, won’t be tolerated…nor will posts inviting me to increase my penis size, collect $10 million from a Nigerian bank or offers to meet horny housewives, thanks all the same…

  1. parallax permalink
    January 27, 2009 6:42 AM

    I see Zadie Smith has appeared below the line on McCrumble’s thread to give SteveAugustine a clip across the head – anticipate moderator wite-out before long

  2. mishari permalink*
    January 27, 2009 10:55 AM

    Perhaps, in view of La Smeets eminence, they’ll just disappear her. They did that to about a half-dozen bits of doggerel from me, MM, 3p4 on Carols thread, moving even Carol to protest (on her last thread not the current one)…imbeciles.

    I suspect Max Gogarty is back from his jaunt to the mysterious Orient and has been taken on as a mod along with a few of his dimmer pals…

  3. mishari permalink*
    January 27, 2009 11:04 AM

    Good call, para…not only did SA and oscarmac get zapped but SA got “disappeared” and La Smeet got a grovelling apology from Sara Crown for having to suffer the indignity of being mocked by lesser mortals. Pathetic.

  4. parallax permalink
    January 27, 2009 2:06 PM

    oooo … Sarah Crown has just referred me to article three of the *talk policy* – by all accounts she won’t put it with it

  5. mishari permalink*
    January 27, 2009 2:16 PM

    I was especially amused by her “…I took the view and the mods agreed with me.”

    Her employees agreed with the boss? Imagine that! Setting aside the fact that the mods are barely literate oafs, what did she expect?

  6. MeltonMowbray permalink
    January 28, 2009 12:03 AM

    Funny Crown only happened along when the celeb was getting a beasting. Where was she when Parisa was characterising me as a pervert? Probably in a bedroom somewhere, smoothing her sheer black stockings, her hand moving towards…. well, doing something else, anyway.

  7. mishari permalink*
    January 28, 2009 12:15 AM

    …re-filled your Viagra prescription, I see, MM..

  8. 3p4 permalink
    January 28, 2009 2:47 PM

    even if we all spoke with one voice we would still
    hear with different ears”

  9. 3p4 permalink
    January 28, 2009 6:01 PM

    mishari,, i cant read the poster beneath the word
    thorazine,,what does it say ?

  10. mishari permalink*
    January 28, 2009 8:39 PM

    Oh, it’s just some bullshit about the makers (Smith, Kline and French), you know “this product is patented by…blahblah…nothing interesting, honestly..

  11. Parisa permalink
    January 30, 2009 9:51 AM

    MM -It was both atf & myself who more or less said”cultivation of language, and thought, that goes beyond the street level.” No one “characterized” you as anything – let alone a perve. Anyway…I looked again at that thread you bring up (for the nth time!) & note it’s title proper ie
    “Poster poems: autumn leaves
    What’s your poetry perspective for this time of year, a season of mists and mellow fruitfulness or one teeming with the bursting fruit of sex?” So in light of that, I take all I said on that thread back. Your poem that slightly got some’s back up slightly was really appropriate – kinda!

    Can the saga be buried now?! I’m not aware of the “situation” per se re Mishari & the mods this time round & will have to search for it but anyway…..Artp wrote with a waterfall of fluidity & wit that will be sorely missed on the Poster threads – of that I’m certain.

    A bientot,

  12. mishari permalink*
    January 30, 2009 11:29 AM

    It’s pretty simple really, Parisa…the mods disappeared a whole bunch of my, MM’s, freep’s, 3P4’s posts… harmless bits of doggerel…off Carol’s last POTW thread, moving even Carol to protest.

    It was the final straw for me. There was no dispute, no to-and-fro, nada…I just decided that enough was enough, although I dislike very much leaving Carol and Billy, both of whom I’m very, very fond and both of whom have always been kindness itself to me.

    It’s not their fault.

    BTW, you’re perfectly correct…Mowbray is a perv. I’ve got pix and I might just post them…

  13. Parisa permalink
    January 31, 2009 4:57 AM

    Am I going blind, or what? I have read Carol & Billy’s threads, missing none in the past few weeks & didn’t notice anything of the kind which is why I was so puzzled by events of late. Oh I was pretty sure it wouldn’t have been their faults in any way. Tell a lie, I did notice only one of Freep’s comments disappear & was immediately puzzled as there was nought wrong with it – but that’s all.

    MM is a perve after all as you have pics? Gimme a break!!!

  14. Parisa permalink
    January 31, 2009 5:15 AM

    ps Are you sure they’re not dirty post-cards?!

  15. mishari permalink*
    January 31, 2009 6:05 AM

    Well, that’s the thing, Parisa…comments don’t simply get deleted, they disappear as if they’d never existed and it’s happening more and more often. Even Carol, on last weeks POTW, remarked on the injustice of it.

    The only effective way to protest is not to post at all. Sad but there it is. Are you ever going to give us a look at your recent work? I’d really enjoy seeing it as would many others…

  16. Parisa permalink
    February 1, 2009 2:38 AM

    I can’t show my new pics until they’ve been formally exhibited – the gallery wouldn’t like it. I’m flattered by your interest though, Misha, & will make them available as soon as I can.

    Incidentally I do see what you mean about disappearing comments but still think that the action you’ve taken to disappear yourself is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

  17. mishari permalink*
    February 1, 2009 3:39 AM

    Well, there were some lovely paintings. I still pop over to Steve’s blog to have a look at them now and again and think on which painting I’d hang where, if I owned it, so my interest in your latest work is only natural.

    Anyway, I’ve not disappeared, just re-appeared in a freer and more relaxed place. I don’t enjoy being angry and the Grauniad makes me angry too often these days…

  18. 3p4 permalink
    February 3, 2009 6:00 PM

    most estemmed Good Sir,
    I am Mandi Gosuc Kedbad and I am seeking in some urgence situation relief such as only lies within the infinite wisdom,grace and charity of such as your esteammed good and noble grachous self.
    Such is the eastemm with which you are radiantly expeosed by my good freind Mr Stallone that i feel it is safe to entrust my most valuable secret and precious knowledge into your greyshush and nobble
    affairs with the promise of many happy days if the mutuality iof our satisfactions can be exspistedly quickened into mutaual profit.
    It has come into my possession a most valuable container of household effects which are formly the previous possesions of my deceased father who if the truth ever to bee known was a man of much wealth and endowment thank you to the deepest misstrys of Great Magic as has the many century of practise given to my gracios and noble contry this wealth and endowmnts can be realised by any man of sufficient deep character and reputations which my dear and eastemmed freind Mr Stallone has vigrously assured me your are of the part…
    It is within the krall of the Customs Man where my grat and valuable secret now lingers as there is a demand for Duties to be renderd after this valuable chest of knowledges has been travelled to me by my sisters
    who was caring for our father thro his last days before ascending in the face of a lion to the big star from which he was sent in 1928. i can not pay this duties from my small purse and going more i can not as a woman
    safely open such a secret and powerful magic place as is surely contained in this wooden chest it being only for the man and the power of Lions.
    The deepest asshorances of Mr Stallone are that you are indeed a man and of the most esstemd and nobel grace to who the great magic would be as a kitten and as such no harm can come ever to your good self and many blessings will fall from such an endowment…
    When you can send for me the possable of duties owing to the Customs Man i can prevail upon your inmmaculate discrection to have the entire box shipped to your good and nobel self.there is much money contained within this chest of my fathers and i ask thta you immediately return 60 parts of this money to myself and my sisters so we flee from this unhappy land and you may keep 40 parts of the money as a fee for your assistance it will be of coarse your treasure that is the rest of the Contents of Magic such as the centurys have bestone on my father and other magicians contained in this wooden chest. Such is the joy that my sister and i will feel on our blessed and happy escape fleaing from this land of our trails that we will be unrestrained in our Manifest Gratitude to our eastemmed hero of you good Sir,,and once you have returned to us the 60 parts of money of which our father has counted pound streling up to 8 millions we will be swift in reaching your nobell self and lavishing our affections on you and our fathers endowment is but just a big blessing.
    You must come urgently with an answr to my offer of your enrichment comforted as i am by the happy trust of your good and graysshh self from Mr Stallone…

    most ankshushly waiting…
    Yours in trust M G Kedbad miss

    please send bankers transit # and duty deposit of 600 pounds by overnight express
    to po box699966 Lagos Nigeria

  19. mishari permalink*
    February 3, 2009 6:37 PM

    Heigh-ho…I can hear the delightful chime of the cash register…my cheque’s in the post, my dear benefactor.

    Say, you don’t have some miracle cure for my massively over-sized penis, do you? It’s become a bit of an embarrasment. Gulliver in Lilliput sort of thing…

  20. 3p4 permalink
    February 3, 2009 9:26 PM

    my embarrasment is it was intended to be an anonymous post,, what a cock up,,

  21. 3p4 permalink
    February 3, 2009 9:31 PM

    and i spelt the name wrong !!

    Mandi Ngosuc Kedbad

    go hang with ManDingo,, his is the same size as Gullivers

    thank christ no one else will see it (my screw up)

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